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PostSubject: How critical are you of alan?   Mon Feb 28, 2011 1:40 am

I noticed in the Chinese forums that people are really critical of her.
When alan uploaded the Apologize cover she did, most people are complaining of how her English is really bad and when she tweets in English, they start correcting her grammar. I noticed that we are just like "oh you just need practice", etc.

The next problem may only happen to those that understand Japanese/Chinese, but they complain of how she can't pronounce things properly when she's singing.

So how critical are you guys? And this doesn't have to pertain to her music, but just anything like her attitude, photoshoots, etc.

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PostSubject: Re: How critical are you of alan?   Mon Feb 28, 2011 2:28 am

I think those who complain about everything all the time are major cocks
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PostSubject: Re: How critical are you of alan?   Mon Feb 28, 2011 2:50 am

I'm not that critical. Learning a new language is difficult, people really underestimate how difficult it is. Besides, I think her English is cute, it's nice of her to use English in her tweets for her international fans ♥

But I have to admit that I do dislike it if artists use loads of English in their lyrics that doesn't make any grammatical sense. But some English here and there doesn't bother me.

Aside from language issues there really isn't that much to complain about, is there? XD Her photo shoots are great, her PV's are great too and so is her music. Some people might complain that she sings too many ballads, but seriously, why did you even start listening to her in the first place if you don't like ballads!?

She works hard and is a really sweet girl. She really shines in interviews and I love her sense of humor XD

You should also answer you own question, pompom ^_- How critical are you of your celestial goddess?
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PostSubject: Re: How critical are you of alan?   Mon Feb 28, 2011 2:55 am

Haha I'm not critical at all! The only thing I'm critical about is maybe just her straight-forwardness~ She acknowledges the haters too much lol

And the Chinese fans don't criticize her Engrish in songs...only her Engrish tweets, but what would they expect from someone without formal education in English to speak? Sneaky

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PostSubject: Re: How critical are you of alan?   Mon Feb 28, 2011 3:52 am

Im critical of her as any other artist, I complain when something bothers me lol, but that doesnt mean I like her less if some photoshoot was bad.
It's rude to complain about her language, it's not like knowing another language comes from heaven, that takes time. I think Im reasonable in complains? lol.
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PostSubject: Re: How critical are you of alan?   Mon Feb 28, 2011 3:59 am

I'm angry. You know? She was said at first in "niconico nama housou". She said the mistake. 'My being here is you guys fault.'
Alan would like true say is. 'I have here is thanks to you.'

Xiao_Hua's exactly the same opinion.

My English is weird. So I write in Japanese.

知っていますか?彼女はニコニコ生放送で言っていたことを。
彼女は間違えて「私がここにいるのはあなた達のせいです。」と言っていました。ですが、彼女の本当に言いたかったことは「私がここにいるのはあなた達のおかけです」でしょう。

Xiao_Huaさんの意見と全く同じです。
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PostSubject: Re: How critical are you of alan?   Mon Feb 28, 2011 4:07 am

I think the way they criticize are too much.
Instead of talk bad about how bad is her English, I feel so grateful she keeps tweeting in English, even came to this forum and posted some words for us. It shows how is she caring her international fans a lot. Some other JPop artists I'm following rarely replied their fans' tweets even it was in Japanese.
And as what tenshi said, learning English isn't that easy.. Especially if you aren't living in a country with English as main language. I also got many difficulties when it comes to talk in English.
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PostSubject: Re: How critical are you of alan?   Mon Feb 28, 2011 5:30 pm

I think I totally understand were she comes from and I accepted what she does, what matter is she putting the effort to do it, hey it not the best, but doesn't small thing like this shouldn't really be bother with. She only have like a 4 year exp with Japanese, and coming from her native languages it hard to adapted to a fluent accent in just a short time, What I'm trying to say is people should learn to understand why she still have some accent here in their. If they can't accepted it, She didn't force them to listen to her. Simply now and these day people just love to complain... ...
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PostSubject: Re: How critical are you of alan?   Mon Feb 28, 2011 6:31 pm

my english is bad too, i can understand her, it's not easy, and the chinese and japanese are really different from english, so it's harder.

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Instead of talk bad about how bad is her English, I feel so grateful she keeps tweeting in English, even came to this forum and posted some words for us. It shows how is she caring her international fans a lot. Some other JPop artists I'm following rarely replied their fans' tweets even it was in Japanese.

I'm with you, alan is really kind and i'm grateful because she spend some of her time posting here and answer in twitter too.
Honestly I'm not very critical, i don't care her grammar, she is learning english, she can make mistakes


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PostSubject: Re: How critical are you of alan?   Wed Mar 02, 2011 5:06 am

english is my second language .. and i totally understand how hard to learn it and use it properly.. she is still learning so mistake will happen.. ppl complain too much these day. i am agree with those who said she spent her time answer us from twitter.. so kind of her caring about us the fans.
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PostSubject: Re: How critical are you of alan?   Wed Mar 02, 2011 6:45 am

I'm not that critical at all of alan. Although I just wished she would just ignore the haters.
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PostSubject: Re: How critical are you of alan?   Thu Mar 03, 2011 10:38 am

If you ask me. I would just say that her singing is bringing the world together. Alan always says "There are no boundaries in the musical world"
Then people are real no-lifers to complain on her english. She has already been through much.
It's all about time. Some time later she will be perfectly succeded in english. She is already so good in it.
I'm not critical to it at all.
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PostSubject: Re: How critical are you of alan?   Thu Mar 03, 2011 7:31 pm

I would have to say i'm not critical of alan at all , she puts out high quality music , treats her fans great , all the lives ive seen are amazing, she gives 110% , she is a beast on the erhu (sorry im a gamer lol)and i like all her songs, i can only say that with 3 other artists Ayu , hikki and m.o.v.e . i can go on lol . but as far as her haters i think she has the right to swing back at then , kick there butts girl haha Bingo
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PostSubject: Re: How critical are you of alan?   Sun Mar 27, 2011 8:19 am

Hmm, my complaints in regards to alan seem to be directed mostly at Avex (release that live DVD, damn it!). I'm not very critical of the woman herself, haha XD

And why should I be? I enjoy the music she makes, and that's what matters the most. Of course, I'm pleased that alan is an incredibly sweet person who puts a lot of effort into communicating with her fans. But even if she wasn't, there would still be no point in wasting energy complaining about it. I think I've said this before, but it bears repeating: Haters gonna hate, and alan should just ignore them.
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PostSubject: Re: How critical are you of alan?   Sat Apr 09, 2011 11:39 pm

I'm not very critical about alan. I like to joke around about her, but not too serious.

No offense, but foreigners/non-native English speakers? correcting alan's English grammar? I'm not saying that they don't have sufficient English skills to do that, but rather that alan should be supported and encouraged to improve.

The pronounciation thing..I'm too used to listening to music where most of the artists don't pronounce clearly so I've never even expected that from anyone LOL.
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PostSubject: Re: How critical are you of alan?   Sun Apr 10, 2011 2:56 am

I wouldn't say I'm critical at all.

Simply put, I have too much to do in my own life to worry about criticising someone for their efforts in learning English, watching every step they make to wait for them to slip up etc.....perhaps if she (or any singer I liked) did something I found really really offensive (like I dunno........lining up babies at the end of a bowling alley and trying to get a strike or something......? o_O) I may be angry for some time, but I understand everyone makes mistakes and nobody is perfect. Who am I to get on her case when it's clear she's just trying to be her best?

Maybe those people should be forced to get mortgages and jobs and maintain a house + garden, then they won't have the energy to be negative jerks xDD
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PostSubject: Re: How critical are you of alan?   Sun Apr 10, 2011 3:09 am

Lol that might explain it...
It looks like many of them are just students living off of their parents' money!

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PostSubject: Re: How critical are you of alan?   Sun Apr 10, 2011 3:11 am

It's not bad to point out others mistakes. People are so good at this. The point however is a lot people don't have respect these days. I'd also believe some people just can't have it and therefore start backfire at alan as an artist. I'm pointing at those "haters" hiding in their online identities. Get real!

Time out

alan is just like everyone a human being. But the difference is she works hard as a singer on her language. And depending from what your native language is learning another language can more or less difficult.

As for firing on alan for her bad English in the Apologize cover that's insane. Some people have forgotten how to be realistic? You cannot expect alan to be good at English in this state. The cover she did was a message to me that she's using English songs to practice and get feel for the language. It's showing us she is working on it.

People learn from mistakes and therefore it's not bad to point those mistakes out. But please do it in a civil manner in which way alan feels like learning from her fans in a caring matter. And do it only if you know English really well like a teacher does. This forums can do it since we are a community that cares for alan in a respectful manner.

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PostSubject: Re: How critical are you of alan?   Mon Apr 11, 2011 12:41 am

I guess I can be critical of her sometimes, but only when it applies to songs. And I mostly just keep that criticism to my head anyway. That probably isn't critical then! Other than that, I don't really feel like I could criticize her for anything. I mean, I only speak English and she speaks alan-Japanese, Chinese, Tibetan, and some English. It's like, no authority to criticize her there! She's too nice to be mean to. ;;;
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